justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Yeah, buffalo doesn’t run cheap, and it’s hard to find. It sure is good, though. Pro-Tip: The best meatloaf I’ve ever had is made with ½ buffalo meat and ½ turkey mean. It sounds weird, but it’s actually super delicious!!!

OMF that was awesome- no wonder the cook got fired but talk about a blessing in that hellscape. XD

Wowzers, but at least it saved your family a decent chunk of change. I’ve only been to Mexico once, and it was the poor part of Cancun- still not too dangerous, really.

Thinking about it, my parents probably spent about 50k total on Hellspring camps…. ugh. I feel bad that they wasted all that money. >.> I should’ve gotten the bariatric surgery from the start- well, probably not until I was 16 but still. 

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Duuude!!! Where the hell have you been this is incredible!!!

And lmao I know that feel! Nowadays when I go to Olive Garden with my best friend I don’t order an entree– either just salad or a dessert, and then Matt gives me few bites of their dish and it works well. C:

TBPH I love the sleeve- the only drawback is that it’s hard to get enough nutrients! I am taking vitamins now but it’s very difficult to eat enough protein. XD And I’m so sick of protein shakes after drinking them pre-op and post-op!!! Luckily the pinto beans at work are easy to eat and high in protein. C: I freakin’ love pinto beans with cheese and a bit of rice like damn that’s what I’m about.

Oh my gosh I can only imagine what it was like behind the scenes! They always warp the truth on reality shows- they twist it and edit it to show only what they want the audience to see.

I remember my mom making me watch a few episodes of Too Fat for Fifteen… gosh, I seriously don’t know how you survived ten months there!!! I would have lost it.

Oh god the protein shakes post-op.. The clear protein drinks were the actual worst??? Iso-Pur I think they were called? They left this like, wet-paper type gunk in my mouth every time I drank it, and I could only have like a shot glass at a time so I can’t imagine what it’d be like drinking the entire damn thing.. ew.. 

I actually have never had pinto beans, somehow. I’ll have to give that a shot! I’m really picky about my proteins so I’m glad you mentioned that :D 

My parents have taken to instead of making full-sized burgers on the grill they’ll make little slider burgers instead, and I can eat them on those little sweet Hawaiian Rolls or with no bun at all depending on how my stomach feels that day. They always are juuust right and since you split them into smaller portions, I can usually eat off a single pound of ground beef for a couple days or more if my parents would let me. 

I always have a hard time portioning my “classes” though - like, if I were to eat 7 bites of something, it should be like 3 bites protein, 2 bite carbs, 2 bite fruit/veg or whatever.. I still haven’t mastered that, so I often just do what I enjoy and it works out. I’m not losing any more weight from my initial heavy drop after the operation, but I’m at the same weight I was when I plateaued at Wellspring so I guess that means this is where my body wants to stay, even if that’s not what a BMI calculator says I should be. (And honestly, screw BMI calculators too.)

Yeah, pinto beans are great! And although I try not to mind those details anymore, I do have to note they’re fat free. So I put a lot of cheese on it and it’s so good!!!

Oh gosh, I only drank the premier protein shakes? And I only liked the chocolate one so all I drank was chocolate protein shakes for like a month it sucked! I also drank a lot of chicked broth the first week or two after the operation- that I didn’t get sick of b/c I love savory and salty food. XD

Oooh, that’s smart! I’ll mention the sliders thing to my dad. ouo It’s hard for him to cook now b/c my portions are so small. Speaking of protein, I’ve never heard of the dividing the nutrients bite by bite! I just sort of eat and my body lets me know if it needs more protein, lmao.

How long ago did you get the surgery? I’m about 8 months post-op and I’m still losing, though a lot more slowly now. I don’t know when it’ll stop, tbh. O.o And yeah, the BMI scale is a really inaccurate way to measure health. I try to pay little mind to it, honestly.

I’m right around the lowest weight I’ve been since after camp #1. I kinda hope I plateau soon because I don’t want my weight to dip too low???

I had my operation on February 28th, 2013. So I’m pretty far ahead now! I dropped all my weight in about 8 months, same as where you are now. And then I leveled out pretty suddenly, so I wouldn’t worry too much even if it seems like you’re still dropping pretty low. 

I hope the sliders work for you!! You can use lean ground beef, but I’ve found that ground chuck “holds together” better when grilling, though that may not matter as much when they’re so small anyway. 

The bite-by-bite method was in my post-op handbook that I read pretty much religiously. I don’t remember the specifics though so if you’re interested in that way of monitoring (and I’d recommend, since it doesn’t promote any destructive behavior) I’d google it a bit more. :’D 

Also, semi-related, where did you get your surgery? Like, I had to leave the states completely and get my surgery in Juarez, Mexico because it was so much cheaper there. Like, 7k instead of 50k or whatever it is here?? because of insurance stuff. 

Oh wow! So it’s been quite a while- that’s good that you leveled off at a good point. ^-^ I figure I’ll do the same when my body decides it’s satisfied lmao.

Yeah, I’ll try different kinds of meat! I can only get it when I visit my dad’s parents, but there’s a place near their house that sells buffalo- it’s surpsingly good! You probably ate it at Hellspring lmao.

I see- I read my pre-op handbook but haven’t picked it up in a while. XD It didn’t mentions that, but moreso what the best things to eat would be. OuO

Whoah, you went all the way to Mexico?! O-O

I got my surgery at a bariatric surgery center about 15 minutes from my house. XD They have support group there, consultation visits, fitness training, therapists, and the actual surgery center on sight! It’s Northwest Weight Loss Surgery- I think it cost between 15k and 20k? So not too bad. I’m lucky that the place happened to be so close to me, really.

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Duuude!!! Where the hell have you been this is incredible!!!

And lmao I know that feel! Nowadays when I go to Olive Garden with my best friend I don’t order an entree– either just salad or a dessert, and then Matt gives me few bites of their dish and it works well. C:

TBPH I love the sleeve- the only drawback is that it’s hard to get enough nutrients! I am taking vitamins now but it’s very difficult to eat enough protein. XD And I’m so sick of protein shakes after drinking them pre-op and post-op!!! Luckily the pinto beans at work are easy to eat and high in protein. C: I freakin’ love pinto beans with cheese and a bit of rice like damn that’s what I’m about.

Oh my gosh I can only imagine what it was like behind the scenes! They always warp the truth on reality shows- they twist it and edit it to show only what they want the audience to see.

I remember my mom making me watch a few episodes of Too Fat for Fifteen… gosh, I seriously don’t know how you survived ten months there!!! I would have lost it.

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Gosh those camps/schools are hell- they’re so unhealthy it’s just sickening. And a lot of times these kids are so young and impressionable- I was 11 when my mom sent me two states away for two months. We got to use computers once a week, and if we got more steps in we could earn extra computer time. We couldn’t have any electronics except iPod that couldn’t get internet. I just… looking back it took me a few years to realize how horrible it all was, and how they warped our way of thinking.

That sounds so similar to mine wow.. Was it a Wellspring camp perchance?? Because that’s eerily like the Wellspring school I went to for 10 months. We had one phonecall home a week that only lasted 10 minutes (we were timed), couldn’t use mp3 players if it had a screen, no phones or laptops or anything because it was all confiscated.. But we also couldn’t get within 5 feet of the opposite sex, had to journal everything we ate and would be punished with literal solitary confinement if we broke the rules once too many times. 

It was Wellspring!!! All three times!!! Oh my gosh I can’t believe you went there too!!! Man, I almost forgot they had boarding schools. Thank God I only went for two months, then one month, then two months. Sure, I lost weight, but in the unhealthiest way. 

And they taught such awful things- 20g of fat or less a day?! That’s so bad for you- plus, fat free foods compensate by loading them with sugar, so it’s better not to eat fat free foods…. I remember working out for over 8 hours a day- and during free time I went to the 5k club because I was so obsessed with losing weight, I ran and ran while others did crafts or things I wish I’d done.

It’s so validating to talk to someone else who went through that- though I’m sad you had to experience it too. :c

OH MY GOD ANOTHER WELLSPRINGER I NEVER IMAGINED ????///

Yeah I went for 10 months and almost went back for my senior year and it was utterly unbearable??? I met my best friend there but only because like.. that terrible shit will bring people together you know?

And it was so unrealistic. YEAH 20G OF FAT A DAY YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A SINGLE MEAL IN TYPICAL AMERICA HAS? AT LEAST THAT. You can’t just shop around for the shit you need to make that happen, even if it WAS truly the “best” diet. no, nonononono. Impossible. And we had 3 PE sessions a day on top of normal schooling so ???? yeah literally impossible in real life

and yeah sugar turns into fat so it literally did nothing for us

and if I ever even HEAR the words “peanut wonder” again I might just vomit relentlessly that stuff was so nasty ughjkdsjklkd

but yes wellspring 1000% promoted eating disorder behavior and unrealistic views of the world and it has permanently damaged so many of the people I went there with. zero out of fucking ten do not recommend

BUT what’s funny is that literally a year after I went, my best friend who was forced to go back reported THEY SHUT DOWN OUR SCHOOL like it’s literally not there anymore. Maybe word’s getting out about how terrible it is.

Holy shit- hopefully people are seeing how toxic those camps and schools are. They literally endorsing eating as little as possible and exercising as much as possible. There were a couple days where I ate 100 calorie and no fat. 100. Fucking. Calories. Not to mention how they made us write down everything we ate along with the calories and fat content??? They trained us to count every calorie, regret every gram of fat, and strive for the impossible. 

I was only eleven- when my parents saw me they applauded my success. It made them happy, so eleven year old me thought I was doing something good. Wellspring didn’t promote a healthy diet- it promoted obsessive behavior, training us to feel shame for eating.

They insisted we were “taking control of our health”. That obsession with control is what drives most eating disorders. I was afraid to eat after that. I skipped lunch. I felt like the biggest failure every time I caved and ate pizza and other junk food.

That camp was utterly toxic.

Seriously, FUCK Wellspring. You’re exactly right on so many levels. I was, luckily, a little older but it’s still taken years to break free of those destructive behaviors and just enjoy food and myself again. I was 15-16 and I had great friends there who also saw through the shit it was and helped me after we all came home, but the fact such a place exists  is really terrifying. When I got home I actually had to go to an eating disorder clinic because I backlashed from those habits so hard I was diagnosed with binge eating disorder. I literally could not get enough of food because I had had so little in that stupid school. And then after that I still gained all my weight back and then some :)) and I’ve had to have weight loss surgery to make up for “lost profit”, as my parents call it.

!!! I’ve had weight loss surgery too !!! I got a gastric sleeve in December because if I didn’t drop the weight I was almost guaranteed to develop Diabetes within a year or two, since it runs in the family.

Seriously, those camps introduced me to disordered eating behaviors- I tried all sorts of bad habits at first- then nine months after the first camp my trauma happened and my ED really took hold since I remembered how good it felt to be in control of my body. I’m currently in remission for bulimia, though I do relapse here and there. I didn’t get diagnosed for so long because I didn’t look like I had bulimia- people assume that if you’re fat you can’t possibly have an ED.

Plus, since those “diets” aren’t realistic, you just gain the weight right back like you said! And every time you gain weight back, it’s harder to lose it the next time. My mom started putting me on diets when I was eight, so by the time I was sixteen it was IMPOSSIBLE to lose weight. I worked out five times a week for an entire summer and worked out regularly. I lost two pounds. FUCK Wellspring and it’s dangerous camps.

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Gosh those camps/schools are hell- they’re so unhealthy it’s just sickening. And a lot of times these kids are so young and impressionable- I was 11 when my mom sent me two states away for two months. We got to use computers once a week, and if we got more steps in we could earn extra computer time. We couldn’t have any electronics except iPod that couldn’t get internet. I just… looking back it took me a few years to realize how horrible it all was, and how they warped our way of thinking.

That sounds so similar to mine wow.. Was it a Wellspring camp perchance?? Because that’s eerily like the Wellspring school I went to for 10 months. We had one phonecall home a week that only lasted 10 minutes (we were timed), couldn’t use mp3 players if it had a screen, no phones or laptops or anything because it was all confiscated.. But we also couldn’t get within 5 feet of the opposite sex, had to journal everything we ate and would be punished with literal solitary confinement if we broke the rules once too many times. 

It was Wellspring!!! All three times!!! Oh my gosh I can’t believe you went there too!!! Man, I almost forgot they had boarding schools. Thank God I only went for two months, then one month, then two months. Sure, I lost weight, but in the unhealthiest way. 

And they taught such awful things- 20g of fat or less a day?! That’s so bad for you- plus, fat free foods compensate by loading them with sugar, so it’s better not to eat fat free foods…. I remember working out for over 8 hours a day- and during free time I went to the 5k club because I was so obsessed with losing weight, I ran and ran while others did crafts or things I wish I’d done.

It’s so validating to talk to someone else who went through that- though I’m sad you had to experience it too. :c

OH MY GOD ANOTHER WELLSPRINGER I NEVER IMAGINED ????///

Yeah I went for 10 months and almost went back for my senior year and it was utterly unbearable??? I met my best friend there but only because like.. that terrible shit will bring people together you know?

And it was so unrealistic. YEAH 20G OF FAT A DAY YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A SINGLE MEAL IN TYPICAL AMERICA HAS? AT LEAST THAT. You can’t just shop around for the shit you need to make that happen, even if it WAS truly the “best” diet. no, nonononono. Impossible. And we had 3 PE sessions a day on top of normal schooling so ???? yeah literally impossible in real life

and yeah sugar turns into fat so it literally did nothing for us

and if I ever even HEAR the words “peanut wonder” again I might just vomit relentlessly that stuff was so nasty ughjkdsjklkd

but yes wellspring 1000% promoted eating disorder behavior and unrealistic views of the world and it has permanently damaged so many of the people I went there with. zero out of fucking ten do not recommend

BUT what’s funny is that literally a year after I went, my best friend who was forced to go back reported THEY SHUT DOWN OUR SCHOOL like it’s literally not there anymore. Maybe word’s getting out about how terrible it is.

Holy shit- hopefully people are seeing how toxic those camps and schools are. They literally endorsing eating as little as possible and exercising as much as possible. There were a couple days where I ate 100 calorie and no fat. 100. Fucking. Calories. Not to mention how they made us write down everything we ate along with the calories and fat content??? They trained us to count every calorie, regret every gram of fat, and strive for the impossible. 

I was only eleven- when my parents saw me they applauded my success. It made them happy, so eleven year old me thought I was doing something good. Wellspring didn’t promote a healthy diet- it promoted obsessive behavior, training us to feel shame for eating.

They insisted we were “taking control of our health”. That obsession with control is what drives most eating disorders. I was afraid to eat after that. I skipped lunch. I felt like the biggest failure every time I caved and ate pizza and other junk food.

That camp was utterly toxic.

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Gosh those camps/schools are hell- they’re so unhealthy it’s just sickening. And a lot of times these kids are so young and impressionable- I was 11 when my mom sent me two states away for two months. We got to use computers once a week, and if we got more steps in we could earn extra computer time. We couldn’t have any electronics except iPod that couldn’t get internet. I just… looking back it took me a few years to realize how horrible it all was, and how they warped our way of thinking.

That sounds so similar to mine wow.. Was it a Wellspring camp perchance?? Because that’s eerily like the Wellspring school I went to for 10 months. We had one phonecall home a week that only lasted 10 minutes (we were timed), couldn’t use mp3 players if it had a screen, no phones or laptops or anything because it was all confiscated.. But we also couldn’t get within 5 feet of the opposite sex, had to journal everything we ate and would be punished with literal solitary confinement if we broke the rules once too many times. 

It was Wellspring!!! All three times!!! Oh my gosh I can’t believe you went there too!!! Man, I almost forgot they had boarding schools. Thank God I only went for two months, then one month, then two months. Sure, I lost weight, but in the unhealthiest way. 

And they taught such awful things- 20g of fat or less a day?! That’s so bad for you- plus, fat free foods compensate by loading them with sugar, so it’s better not to eat fat free foods…. I remember working out for over 8 hours a day- and during free time I went to the 5k club because I was so obsessed with losing weight, I ran and ran while others did crafts or things I wish I’d done.

It’s so validating to talk to someone else who went through that- though I’m sad you had to experience it too. :c

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

thewritegrump:

acceptmyshaft:

justaprinceofthegalaxy:

PFFFT I feel that.

//slides into the room// //gets wicked rugburn//

FU KC

Imagining myself running over to check if you’re okay, faceplanting on my way over and getting my own wicked rugburn. On my face.

Oh my gosh we are absolutely flawless! XD

I swear some days I’m so clumsy it hurts I’m simply faultless. 

I have a friend who was inured for most of her junior high and high school career. I think she was on crutches more days than she wasn’t- she would often joke “I swear,man, that curb just jumped out at me!!!”.

When I was in the weight loss boarding school that i was forced to go to I got a wicked stress injury in my foot from just

walking

honestly i swear to u

just my fat butt couldn’t handle walkING SO IBROKE A BONE

i had to wear what my friend tenderly calls the “space boot” for 4 months

MONTHS

!!!!!!!11111111

Oh my gosh- I’ve been to a few of those camps and there were some wicked injuries. O-O

It’s a wild place there, I swear.

4 months though? Hell, I’m sorry!

ye dude I was at that place they had that terrible TV show for called Too Fat for Fifteen. I was almost a “main character” on the show :|

it was nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuts

Those camps are so unhealthy it’s freakin’ ridiuclous and dangerous.

I remember I lost about 50 pounds in two months. We would have contests to see who could eat the fewest calories a day and get the most steps in. The counselors didn’t say anything against it. I passed out a couple times from malnourishment, and kids were getting heat stroke and malnourished left and right. It was wild. O-o I had to do that shit three times- I feel your pain. >n<